UK: Muslim nurses do not have to wash!

by: George Washington

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The UK Department of Health recently announced that it would loosen hygiene rules for Muslim doctors and nurses. From now on, Muslim female staff will not need to wash their hands before procedures as it compromises their modesty. Instead, they will have the admittedly less sanitary option of wearing disposable plastic over-sleeves.

Acknowledging the danger of microbes and death, a Department of Health spokesman said, “The guidance is intended to . . . balance infection control measures with cultural beliefs.” But, believe it or not, from a culturist perspective, the death of some patients is not the main cause for concern that this policy elicits.

England has a majority culture to protect and promote, this multiculturalist policy implicitly says that England has no core culture. It says that the nation can be whatever pressure groups decide it is. It, therefore, officially ends the dominance of English culture in England.

Everywhere Islam has legal standing and is practiced is a space where English culture does not exist and is not practiced. It means the territory of defending Western values has shrunk and that believing in Islamic values has grown. The hospitals are now becoming Islamic.

Just as Saudi Arabia has an Islamic culture and protects it, England has a culture and a right to protect it. To survive, England must enact culturist, not multiculturalist policies.

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93 Responses to “UK: Muslim nurses do not have to wash!”

  1. Jeff Takin

    How cute…a cult that kills others for sport has modesty rules that prohibit washing their hands. Turn out the lights UK..you are officially back in the 6th century..and we're not far behind.

  2. Kevin P Donovan

    I had open heart once and a blood clot roved from my stomach. Any RN not fully scrubbed doesn't get in my OR. I interviewed peoe and eliminated a few who had issues. Some I thought were hygiene. Not an option, I fired Nurses and Doctors from touching my wife during the birth of our son. My rights outweigh their needs.

  3. Van Scheurich

    Who puts on the gloves? Dirty hands? Not sanitary is it!

  4. Van Scheurich

    ………….not with Obamacare friend. The rules are changing!

  5. Joseph F Layman

    JUST BOYCOTT ENGLAND. NO SENSE IN GETTING SICK THERE.!!

  6. Timothy Lee Jones

    Left hand wipes their ass and the right hand is reserved for eating without utensils. What could possibly go wrong.

  7. Kevin P Donovan

    Van Scheurich…aka I'm sure its Van the man. Glad it was done one yr apart one in '11 the other in '12. We my friend as a nation are headed to a highway of hell

  8. Bennie Ray Logsdon

    I am so tired of having to put my beliefs under the table an forced to glorify a heathen allah and false profit mohammad. To hell with islam, call back the Templar Knights.

  9. Suzanne Loges

    Exactly, Harold!!
    I wouldn't want any of them touching me!!

  10. Tony Walior

    How about treating your own cult so they die from deadly infections? W-T-F is wrong with these people? They work as cashiers, but won't touch pork so someone else has to come over and ring it up? Now they don't have to wash their hands in a sanitary environment because it compromises their modesty? Please, enlighten me on how good hygiene compromises modesty?

  11. Suzy Chandler

    Refuse treatment by that person it is your right.

  12. Juanita Ulrichson

    I sure don't want to get one.

  13. Gary Skeers

    if they want to live in a free world they should wash their hands just like everybody else

  14. Scott Snoopy-Smith

    political correctness will literally kill you

  15. Heidi Engel

    The US will be next as long as Obama is in office. The FIRST defense in the spread of germs is hand washing and the first thing you are taught in Nursing school.

  16. Toby Bassett

    Who would even want to hire a Muslim?? They don't have to ring up grocerys that don't agree with their beliefs they don't wash in a hospital environment hell they just want a paycheck without working for it.

  17. Trina Radford

    I want to know what was stated in the ….. portion here.
    “The guidance is intended to . . . balance infection control measures with cultural beliefs.”
    Makes me wonder!?!?!

  18. Trina Radford

    I want to know what was stated in the ….. portion here.
    “The guidance is intended to . . . balance infection control measures with cultural beliefs.”
    Makes me wonder!?!?!

  19. David Michael

    sue sue sue as islam shouldn't be allowed to mandate the medical practices in any civililied country and should be made accountable for their lack of sanitary actions if not then don't practice medical at all and return to the tents they came from !

  20. Estefania Farley

    Believe me I didn't but had to because of an emergency while living in the middle east. So happy to not be living there now

  21. David Michael

    honestly this site is instigating hate and im tired of it and anybody that doesn't realize it is a retard ! jopeph your nearly a genious think about it hun you know I deep down love you and you deal with this site lots think about it they are insiting us against eachother duh to make hate not love !

  22. Daniel Berman

    If this was about modesty, wouldn't an easier and healthier option be that they put a curtain around one of the wash sinks so that they can go in there and reveal their arms in privacy?

  23. April Prolow Hoffman

    Good , kill em all , Metallica . Less who will attack America and us later .

  24. Alynn

    Good , kill em all , Metallica . Less who will attack America and us later .

  25. April Prolow Hoffman

    Wtf , how can they think this would possibly be Almighty's will . To make women who he made beautiful cover up themselves with green potato sacs . Dumb , not logical . Anyway

  26. Ivan Salis

    hell no –if so folks should be able to "opt out" having these less clean people in the operating rooms with them,.

  27. Jack Hudson

    Who cares what this pigshit cult thinks?

  28. Beatriz Bevenhousen

    JUST LIKE WE CHECKING THE AIRPORT SEARCHING EVERYONE BUT THE ISLAM WOMEN?? BUT ALL OTHERS ARE COMPLETELY SEARCHED??

  29. Beatriz Bevenhousen

    JUST LIKE WE CHECKING THE AIRPORT SEARCHING EVERYONE BUT THE ISLAM WOMEN?? BUT ALL OTHERS ARE COMPLETELY SEARCHED??

  30. Sherry Marie Dawson Owings

    So they can't even wash their hands! really! how about having a orivate sink for idiots only that men can not see and let them wash up their…so they would rather risk someone getting an infection! This is insane…wash you stupid hands or don't be in the health care business…common sense I really miss you…I suppose some poor female will just have to die if they have to expose her in any way for lets say a bandage or surgery? Stupid idiots

  31. Mike Bridges

    I find the fact that they are allowed to do this is obscene and insane. Everybody that is rational knows hygiene is absolutely essential for doctors and nurses. I am a physician since 1978 and I am an authority on the subject If you are a Muslim do what the Palestinians do and see a rational Jewish doctor. MIKE BRIDGES MD

  32. Billy Eves

    This is part of sharia Law that the Islamist s are slowly piece by piece getting into the cultures of many countries hereto for the last 30 years. They will demand more Sharia Law until they can kill you and every last woman and child that is not Muslim with impunity. Ban Islam from the UK, USA and everywhere possible.

  33. Billy Eves

    This is part of sharia Law that the Islamist s are slowly piece by piece getting into the cultures of many countries hereto for the last 30 years. They will demand more Sharia Law until they can kill you and every last woman and child that is not Muslim with impunity. Ban Islam from the UK, USA and everywhere possible.

  34. Billy Eves

    David Michael Dave, Correction: Islam is not a religion and the Qur'an is not a religious book they are a manifesto to take over the world declaring you and I must convert to Islam or be killed. Sharia Law is the Muslim's authority to kill you, murder and rape your woman and children to the very last one.

  35. Bennie Ray Logsdon

    Billy Eves I was raised to fear no one but God Almighty. Who are you warning me about?

  36. Billy Eves

    David, is it hate to tell the truth and to warn people of the dangers of Islamist s? I don't think so. The facts are that Islam and the Qur'an are a manifesto to take over the world and Sharia law is the Muslim's authority to kill you and your family to the last woman and child. Wake up, you are warned!

  37. Billy Eves

    You should. They want to kill you and your family to the last woman and child. You are warned. Ban Islam now!

  38. El Ja Cardin

    I wouldn't let any one near me who hasn't washed their hands. We must stop kissing ass to a bunch of lunitics……………

  39. Paul Claxon

    Ever stand behind a muslim in cashier line, they all stink, wow ?

  40. Lee Joseph Mitchell

    Because they are some of the best trained in their profession. Because the religion, race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, class, or gender shouldn't matter. Because all that should matter is that they are efficiently trained in their field.

  41. Lee Joseph Mitchell

    Paul Claxon A muslim is required to ritually bathe 5 times a day, but privately so as to keep themselves from immodesty. So I doubt the 'Muslims' behind which you stood were actually Muslims. Maybe it was you?

  42. Lee Joseph Mitchell

    Billy Eves You, sir, are poorly informed. The medical profession has for DECADES made concessions for various religious practices, mostly Christian. Unless the JWs don't believe in Jesus? Because they refuse blood transfusions, requiring that doctors conduct virtually bloodless operations.

  43. Lee Joseph Mitchell

    Suzanne Loges the feeling is COMPLETELY mutual.

  44. Lee Joseph Mitchell

    Suzanne Loges the feeling is COMPLETELY mutual.

  45. Lee Joseph Mitchell

    actually, no hand really wipes, they use 'living water', they completely rinse that area and then pat dry. Their asses are a lot freer of filth than yours. They also completely shave their genitals and private areas so nothing sticks to it. No dingleberries on a Muslim bottom.

  46. Lee Joseph Mitchell

    actually, no hand really wipes, they use 'living water', they completely rinse that area and then pat dry. Their asses are a lot freer of filth than yours. They also completely shave their genitals and private areas so nothing sticks to it. No dingleberries on a Muslim bottom.

  47. Lee Joseph Mitchell

    Well, thankfully, in this country, religion is a protected class, so you can't discriminate against a potential employee. I have worked in 3 hotels and refused to sell alcohol, give coupons for it, and wore thobe and sported a beard to my chest, even though it was in absolute violation of company policy. Just like you are protected when you pray at lunch or take the day off for a baptism or bat mitzvah.

  48. Lee Joseph Mitchell

    I think you misunderstand, they can't wash in the presence of men, doesn't mean they don't wash at all.

  49. Lee Joseph Mitchell

    April Prolow Hoffman So God intended for you to go out with a dress that barely covers your privates? How is that modest? How does that preserve and honor the body Allah has blessed you with?

  50. David Michael

    talked with my friend jamal a registered nurse about this and he said that its a mandate all much wash their hands other wise people can catch too many diseases and thus for all in the uk to refuse treatment from muslims unless they well conform to the general rule of all ! The hospital well eventually diminish their hours to the point they no longer can work there and well quit as they should !

  51. April Prolow Hoffman

    Are you for real . The issue is the picture . I think it's dumb that's my opinion deal with it Lee Joseph Mitchell .

  52. Terry Smith

    Lee Joseph Mitchell germs are germs. I don't give a damn what "religion" you are. Health care workers need to wash their hands. Hands carry germs; you ignorant schmuck.

  53. Terry Smith

    Lee Joseph Mitchell germs are germs. I don't give a damn what "religion" you are. Health care workers need to wash their hands. Hands carry germs; you ignorant schmuck.

  54. Timothy Lee Jones

    Lee how come your religion preaches peace and tolerance and then kills people of all religions (including your own) when they least expect it. Your religion is far mor filthy then the pigs on a farm!!

  55. Timothy Lee Jones

    Check out David Wood the three phases of jihad. Same play book for the last 4000 years and your religion hasn't changed at all

  56. Lee Joseph Mitchell

    And your religion doesn't? What do you call the occupation of Iraq, where US christian forces have raped and murdered thousands of innocent women and children? Praise be to Allah the Muslims finally took back from the invading army Fallujah. And before you say that the occupation was religiously charged, explain why even Bush called it a crusade.

  57. Lee Joseph Mitchell

    Timothy Lee Jones the truth is that what really offends you isn't the growth of Islam, but the shrinking of Christianity, right? America isn't going to be destroyed by violent Jihadists intent on a militant takeover, it won't be the Mujihadeen in Syria or the 'sleeper cells' to which I'm sure you believe all Muslims belong. It will be one by one, as we convert with the truth of Allah and the love of an-nabi (salallahu aleihi wa saalam). In the last 10 years more than 2 million American's converted to Islam. At this rate There will be 15 million Muslims in America by 2025.

  58. Sherry Marie Dawson Owings

    I understand that if they do not wash their hands they could casue infections and worse! If they don;t want to wash their hands in front of men which is insane! they do not need to be nurses…because being a nurse means a lot more than washing hands, they have to touch parts of males and females bodies, etc. AThis is just plain stupid, they should quit.

  59. Lee Joseph Mitchell

    Sherry Marie Dawson Owings Actually, no, A Muslim woman would probably not treat a man. And again, you fail to understand that they aren't refusing to wash their hands, simply in the presence of men. Which means they WASH THEIR HANDS, just not where a man can see them.

  60. Sherry Marie Dawson Owings

    If you are a muslim woman then you should probably not be a nurse…seems to me they can't treat men, they can't keep acceptable santitary conditions, seems like a really bad job choice. The article stated they would use disposable sleeves instead of washing, if you want to re-read it

  61. Lee Joseph Mitchell

    Sherry Marie Dawson Owings Try this totally novel idea: READ MORE THAN ONE SOURCE when considering the merits and veracity of a story. It's like depending on Fox News or CNN for the 'real story'. Other sources quote nurses and female doctors saying they were demanding a separate washroom.

  62. Sherry Marie Dawson Owings

    What we are discussing is this particular article….not the millions of various pro-muslim bull crap you are no doubt referring to….I do not have a problem being muslim, be anything you want this is America…worship a pinetree if you like….but when you are in the health care field, you should follow the santitary guidelines set forth to keep people safe and healthy and if your religion says a man can not see my fingers and I can;t touch a man then you should not be in the medical field…a little common sense goes a long way

  63. Timothy Lee Jones

    First of all Lee Joseph Mitchell, Im not afraid of you or any of your muslim buddies PERIOD!!! Im just a good ole country boy who grew up with good christian values and the bible, Which Clearly States, THOU SHALT NOT KILL. I have never taken a human life ever… It is you who fails to open his mind and it is you who hides behind this Alah. You and your Jihadist use Alah name to do some of the most unspeakable crimes known to man all on some BS promise of 72 virgins, The fact that this Alah is promising 72 Virgins sounds just like he was in real life, A Pedophile. I know that you pick and choose what phrases you want to believe in and what ones you choose to distort in whatever sick fashion you choose, War is wrong no matter who kills period, but I do understand duty, God and Country and will defend my flag and its meaning and the very oath I swore to. This country did not go to Iraq over a religion (this is where you are really flawed), It went to war because your religion (not all your people) chose to take human lives of all religions. Your Jihad chose to kill people in this country for no reason but to avenge something in history against the Infidells, I ask why??? You say that we killed and raped thousands of muslim women and children? When exactly did we do that? I watch the news and every time a US soldier broke the rules of engagement they faced criminal charges and were punished accordingly. I witnessed your religion beat and behead people without the benefit of a trial. Your Jihadist captured and killed soldiers just because they wore the uniform. You had no proof that they ever took a life. I have seen your supposed tolerance as it beat and killed a muslim women who had been raped because she was raped, How is that even fair, It is not, It is as barbaric as you sheri law. As far as I am concerned (and this has only shown by proof) Alah was as ruthless, deceitful and evil as is the muslim faith and this is backed up by your Kuran.
    The US Armed forces is made up of several religions, and even those who do not believe in Christ at all, I happen to be Budhist and LDS. I cannot find anywhere in history where a monk has ever blown up little children in the hopes of killing infidels, But your religion does, Why, Why is believing differently from you a death sentence. I was raised to love and help everyone I can. This is called compassion. Something your religion forbids unless its trying to convert. I accept everyone regardless how they believe because I believe they have a God given to believe anything they want. This is your choice too. I do not fault you for that, What I do find offensive is how you can be happy that your religion just went into Falluja and killed a lot more civilians and Iraq policemen and military to take back a city when all the people that lived there just wanted peace. Your religion is hell bent on killing everyone who freely chooses to live free and worship who they want.
    Let me ask you a question: If my country sucks as bad as you say it does, The what the hell are you doing here? Are you one of those sleeper cells that plans to expand your religion in my country through the same type of violence you portray in your country? I will stand by my country until my last breath of life has left my body. I love my country, I know we are not perfect, But we do have the right to worship who we wish without the threat of death or beatings which are prevalent in you country. We went to Iraq to remove a dictator who took those rights away from the people he was supposed to protect, Do not preach to me about your peaceful religion, I have never seen Alqueda or the Taliban help it people, only threaten them until they were to scared to do anything. You sir are a hypocrite much like your Alah!!

  64. Timothy Lee Jones

    First of all Lee Joseph Mitchell, Im not afraid of you or any of your muslim buddies PERIOD!!! Im just a good ole country boy who grew up with good christian values and the bible, Which Clearly States, THOU SHALT NOT KILL. I have never taken a human life ever… It is you who fails to open his mind and it is you who hides behind this Alah. You and your Jihadist use Alah name to do some of the most unspeakable crimes known to man all on some BS promise of 72 virgins, The fact that this Alah is promising 72 Virgins sounds just like he was in real life, A Pedophile. I know that you pick and choose what phrases you want to believe in and what ones you choose to distort in whatever sick fashion you choose, War is wrong no matter who kills period, but I do understand duty, God and Country and will defend my flag and its meaning and the very oath I swore to. This country did not go to Iraq over a religion (this is where you are really flawed), It went to war because your religion (not all your people) chose to take human lives of all religions. Your Jihad chose to kill people in this country for no reason but to avenge something in history against the Infidells, I ask why??? You say that we killed and raped thousands of muslim women and children? When exactly did we do that? I watch the news and every time a US soldier broke the rules of engagement they faced criminal charges and were punished accordingly. I witnessed your religion beat and behead people without the benefit of a trial. Your Jihadist captured and killed soldiers just because they wore the uniform. You had no proof that they ever took a life. I have seen your supposed tolerance as it beat and killed a muslim women who had been raped because she was raped, How is that even fair, It is not, It is as barbaric as you sheri law. As far as I am concerned (and this has only shown by proof) Alah was as ruthless, deceitful and evil as is the muslim faith and this is backed up by your Kuran.
    The US Armed forces is made up of several religions, and even those who do not believe in Christ at all, I happen to be Budhist and LDS. I cannot find anywhere in history where a monk has ever blown up little children in the hopes of killing infidels, But your religion does, Why, Why is believing differently from you a death sentence. I was raised to love and help everyone I can. This is called compassion. Something your religion forbids unless its trying to convert. I accept everyone regardless how they believe because I believe they have a God given to believe anything they want. This is your choice too. I do not fault you for that, What I do find offensive is how you can be happy that your religion just went into Falluja and killed a lot more civilians and Iraq policemen and military to take back a city when all the people that lived there just wanted peace. Your religion is hell bent on killing everyone who freely chooses to live free and worship who they want.
    Let me ask you a question: If my country sucks as bad as you say it does, The what the hell are you doing here? Are you one of those sleeper cells that plans to expand your religion in my country through the same type of violence you portray in your country? I will stand by my country until my last breath of life has left my body. I love my country, I know we are not perfect, But we do have the right to worship who we wish without the threat of death or beatings which are prevalent in you country. We went to Iraq to remove a dictator who took those rights away from the people he was supposed to protect, Do not preach to me about your peaceful religion, I have never seen Alqueda or the Taliban help it people, only threaten them until they were to scared to do anything. You sir are a hypocrite much like your Alah!!

  65. David Michael

    ugh I started something here with my friend the nurse that told me you must wash to get all disease off your hands other wise get infections ! Ok lee joseph if you can prove your point to me ill be your slave forever but if you cant you have to be a Christian you agree ?

  66. David Michael

    ugh I started something here with my friend the nurse that told me you must wash to get all disease off your hands other wise get infections ! Ok lee joseph if you can prove your point to me ill be your slave forever but if you cant you have to be a Christian you agree ?

  67. Deborah McCloud

    Seriously? You compare disease and infection transmission via lack of handwashing to selling alcohol? Do you know that the main goal in a hospital is to heal and prevent those things? You not selling alcohol, or wearing a thobe, or a beard.. does not risk anyone's life. Not washing your hands when you are in the medical profession, does. Hygiene in a hospital is not just a 'policy' that is silly and inconvenient. It is a necessity to protect life. In another post you compared hygiene to someone refusing a blood transfusion and that is just as ridiculous. I can refuse a blood transfusion because I am informed and make that choice as the patient.. yet you think that's comparable to a nurse taking care of a patient who has no say in whether or not she washes her hands after handling someone with an infectious disease, or possibly after she's just been to the restroom? This isn't a religious or modesty issue.. this is patient care issue. Patients come to the hospital to be healed.. not to risk their lives by being exposed to the filthy hands of a nurse who believes she doesn't have to wash because it might show an inch of skin. Nurses must wash. Don't want to? Fine.. don't. But you won't work with me and you won't touch my patient until you do. It's not discrimination, it's common sense.

  68. Deborah McCloud

    Seriously? You compare disease and infection transmission via lack of handwashing to selling alcohol? Do you know that the main goal in a hospital is to heal and prevent those things? You not selling alcohol, or wearing a thobe, or a beard.. does not risk anyone's life. Not washing your hands when you are in the medical profession, does. Hygiene in a hospital is not just a 'policy' that is silly and inconvenient. It is a necessity to protect life. In another post you compared hygiene to someone refusing a blood transfusion and that is just as ridiculous. I can refuse a blood transfusion because I am informed and make that choice as the patient.. yet you think that's comparable to a nurse taking care of a patient who has no say in whether or not she washes her hands after handling someone with an infectious disease, or possibly after she's just been to the restroom? This isn't a religious or modesty issue.. this is patient care issue. Patients come to the hospital to be healed.. not to risk their lives by being exposed to the filthy hands of a nurse who believes she doesn't have to wash because it might show an inch of skin. Nurses must wash. Don't want to? Fine.. don't. But you won't work with me and you won't touch my patient until you do. It's not discrimination, it's common sense.

  69. Justin Smith

    Lee Joseph Mitchell Your speaking of a patient not wanting someone else's blood. That is there right. It is also the right of the patient to have sanitary conditions in which they are operated on. In these two situations you are using opposite sides of a coin to try and win the same argument. Try again sir.

  70. Justin Smith

    I am fairly certain that April said nothing about a dress that barely covers up her privates. Which in America would be her choice. As we believe in freedom. Secondly, how can you sit here and justify keeping your hands covered when lives on the line. What does a female who can't work on a man do when a male trauma patient comes in and she is the only one not currently working on a patient…. Does she let him die?

  71. Lee Joseph Mitchell

    Timothy Lee Jones Yes, genius, I'm part of a sleeper cell, because in your world free of logic or reason, all Muslims intend to kill YOU and YOUR family. This might come as a complete shock to you, but the VAST majority of Muslims don't give to greasy rat lumps what you do with your life or what you believe. They are too busy making 5 prayers, reciting myriad incantations and being good Muslims to preoccupy themselves with what you're doing. And the precious few that do care? Also kill other Muslims, because we're not 'extreme' enough.

    And as for 72 virgins? Personally, I'd rather 72 sluts that know what they're doing. But all kidding aside, that verse has been interpreted so many ways. Some say the word is dates (like the fruit), others say virgins, I've even heard an Imam say it's 72 'crystal clear raisins'.

    And Jihad isn't just violent conquests, it's the one-by-one conversion. Which is precisely how we will take this country, just as we did in Malaysia, and how we will conquer. Not by strength of arms or guerilla warfare, but by peace and discussion. 50,000 Americans convert every year to Islam. By 2025 there will be 15 million of us here. Christianity is incomplete, Allah has given us the full doctrine in the Quran, he has given us hope in Mohammad (peace be upon him).

    And don't you find it interested that you keep trying so desperately to inculpate me for crimes of which I'm not guilty? I've never killed anyone, never blown anything up, never even been to an anti-American rally, but you are so sure that my faith necessitates a desire to kill all non-Muslims, you can't even purport a valid argument. Your 'essay' is full of ad hominems and conjecture, the sure sign of someone who is illiterate in the subject on which he wishes to dissert.

    You are the hypocrite, first for making assumptions about my ideology, and second for decrying your own dogma which encourages you to live in peace with all men and to live a quiet, peaceful life. You're savior also taught patience and love. Maybe you should read 1 Corinthians 13 a few times. I'm more a Christian than you, good sir. Let me ask you, do you think it's fair to round up people who have no part in these crimes? Because hundreds of Sikhs (Go ahead, google Sikhism, I'll wait) are being arrested as 'terrorist sympathizers' because they 'look Muslim'. Sikhs don't even believe in Allah! They are hindus! But you mindless rabble of Hillbilly Orks can't tell the difference. Just after 9-11 over 150 Sikhs were attached and 3 were murdered by uneducated imbeciles who just saw someone from the far-east.

  72. Lee Joseph Mitchell

    She calls a make doctor, of which I'm sure there are plenty. I will not allow a female doctor to touch me, and I'm sure, if she's a good Muslim, she wouldn't touch me either.

  73. Timothy Lee Jones

    Lee Joseph Mitchell. In reply to you last retort. First of all, Genius, I never said you were in a sleeper cell, If you would of read the question with even the least amount of wisdom (as you so put it), It was a question. Your statements of our judeo christian values and how your belief is that we "Rape and murder women and children" only leads any reasonable thinking individual to believe that you do indeed hate Americans (except the ones you can recruit to you belief system) and our way of life, yet you live in our country, This would be hypocritical of your religion (since we are evil infidels). My belief and understanding of your religion is based on facts pulled directly from your Quran (See David Wood, Three phases of Jihad) for a really in-depth explanation, and world events for the last 1000 years. My question was a simple and innocent one, one that could have been brought by someone who would like people to understand that not all muslims are bad (I too made a reference to this earlier) but you we're too defensive to return a clear understanding of that peace in which you profess. You immediately fired at me with some unsubstantiated remark regarding thousands of women and children being raped and murdered at the hands of christians. I simply asked you to show me where. I have offered proof that muslims have infact ruled the news with suicide bombers involving children, beheadings of soldiers and beating of muslim women (based on your sharia law) because some man cannot control his animal instincts and decided to rape her. These facts are well known and constantly in the news. We could go tit for tat all night long and in the end you will still believe what you believe and I will believe what I believe. This is a sad situation when two people cannot compromise. You have referred me to an uneducated back hills hillbilly simply because you believe that I think all muslims are the same. Who is stereo typing who? I happen to have several friends who are GOOD MUSLIMS, they have no wish to hurt anyone now or ever and have intact assisted US Forces in defeating the Taliban and Alquieda (the ones who you are happy, killed all those innocent people who now live in falluja) US Forces left Iraq in 2010. I know because it was my unit that assisted in pulling out the remaining troops. As for the Sikhs, I was appalled at the treatment that they received (Yes I do know the difference) My wife is Cambodian, and has survived the same kind of dictator that the US removed from Iraq, I understand the tragedy of war and dictators, I live it everyday through the struggles of my wife and her PTSD, (she lost her entire family to the Pol Pot). I know the difference between people regardless of what they were or how they wash their Heiny, You apparently do not, based on you need to bash all christians and hillbilly Orks. Your education does not give you the right anymore than it does anyone to stereo type people and religions, You are not as brilliant as you would like to believe you are, (a brilliant man, with compassion for those who do not understand, would of found a way to explain without degrading the questioner). You have to admit, that the news and even the foreign wars do not do your religion honor. Why is a shiite considered less than a sunnie? Not my understanding, but aren't they both muslim. Why if the Taliban are so good (your words) do they traumatize and threaten and even Kill their fellow piece loving muslim brothers if they help Americans, who are there to assist in teaching them to defend themselves against the very same muslims (Taliban, Alqueda). These are simple and unexplained questions to many who do not understand your religion, I ask because I would like to know why. I see the bad muslims (proof everyday) strap explosives to little children and walk them into a courtyard full of innocent people (Muslims, Christians, Etc.) and blow them up to make a statement. Wouldn't this seem to enrage even the most gentle of muslims?, It does christians. Sir all I am saying is simple, We believe in Christ and I have yet to ever see a Christian send a little child into battle to make a point. The things your religion does makes the good ones look really bad, Wouldn't you agree. If there are so many good ones (as you say there are) How come you are not demanding and in-fact putting a stop to the bad ones who are committing these atrocities so that Good Americans do not have to do it for you. The equation is a simple one to solve, More of the good ones mean less of the bad ones, But instead you have good ones hiding the bad ones.

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